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10月13日周二
  1. Tessl:产品与工程博客52

    Tessl 谈 AI 软件工厂的开放性:既要带得进上下文,也要带得走知识

    Tessl 发文提出评估 AI 软件工厂开放性的关键问题是能否把组织上下文带进来、把生产中积累的知识带走。文章给出透明性、可复现性、互操作性和生态复用四个可验证维度,并建议从一个受限工作流入手,把反复纠正的问题沉淀为技能、架构决策和评测用例,再在其他智能体或 harness 上演练迁移。

  2. Hacker News:AI 热帖73

    IMF 警告 AI 股价崩盘威胁全球金融稳定

    IMF 在半年一度的《全球金融稳定报告》中将 AI 股价崩盘列为三大显著风险之一,称系统风险已处于「偏高」水平。报告指出「七巨头」占标普 500 权重超过 35%(十年前为 12%),近三年超大规模云厂商与较弱 AI 公司之间有 3000 亿美元交易、配套 6500 亿美元债务及 1.4 万亿美元未来承诺;杠杆上升和循环融资安排可能在回调时加剧被迫抛售与全球外溢。

  3. Rohan Paul40

    Cathie Wood(ARK CEO 兼 CIO):AI 可能引发自工业革命以来全球增长的最大加速。 工业革命前,全球实际 GDP 增长约 0.6%;之后攀升至 5 倍,达 3%。 如果这场 AI 革命重现工业革命那样的五倍跃升,全球实际增长将约为 15% ---- 来自 "ARK Invest" YouTube 频道(完整视频链接见评论)

    引用Rohan Paul@rohanpaul_ai

    The IMF just published its latest forecasts and it assume no extra productivity growth from AI, and the report finds that economy-wide data still show little effect on wages, jobs or measured productivity, despite gains on specific tasks. > The surge in AI hardware trade comes mostly from higher prices rather than more units shipped, and rising memory chip costs are already pushing up core-goods inflation in some rich economies. > In the IMF’s models, an AI bust costs the world economy almost twice what an AI boom adds: 1.1% of output lost by 2028, against 0.6% gained by 2029. > AI hardware trade has roughly tripled in value since 2019 because prices rose, not because more was shipped, with Taiwan and Korea supplying 62% of net exports and the US and China taking over 75% of net imports.

  4. Rohan Paul62

    IMF总裁Kristalina Georgieva表示,AI在支撑全球增长的同时正消除年轻劳动者的首批工作,因为新人通常从例行性、重复性岗位起步并逐级晋升。IMF研究估计AI可能影响发达经济体约60%的岗位、全球约40%,其中约一半受影响劳动者可能受益,其余的关键任务可能被自动化,而这些任务往往是入门级工作的主体。

    引用Rohan Paul@rohanpaul_ai

    The IMF just published its latest forecasts and it assume no extra productivity growth from AI, and the report finds that economy-wide data still show little effect on wages, jobs or measured productivity, despite gains on specific tasks. > The surge in AI hardware trade comes mostly from higher prices rather than more units shipped, and rising memory chip costs are already pushing up core-goods inflation in some rich economies. > In the IMF’s models, an AI bust costs the world economy almost twice what an AI boom adds: 1.1% of output lost by 2028, against 0.6% gained by 2029. > AI hardware trade has roughly tripled in value since 2019 because prices rose, not because more was shipped, with Taiwan and Korea supplying 62% of net exports and the US and China taking over 75% of net imports.

  5. Gary Marcus:The Road to AI We Can Trust44

    前沿 AI 实验室会迎来自己的 WeWork 时刻吗?

    Gary Marcus 质疑前沿 AI 实验室的高估值:tokenmaxxing 热潮已退,中国开放权重模型引发价格战,OpenAI 收入预测存疑,加之失控智能体带来的责任风险和美国上诉法院新的版权裁决,使这些公司寻求的巨额估值越来越难以成立。OpenAI 已将 IPO 推迟至 2027 年,Anthropic 据称下月上市但尚未公开 S-1 文件。

  6. Aravind Srinivas56

    Perplexity CEO Aravind Srinivas 转发 Meta 新前沿模型发布公告并祝贺 Meta 训练出前沿级模型。其引用内容称该模型在个人智能体和专业智能体上是 SOTA,是其最大、最强的模型;作者本人补充称 Watermelon 在 WANDR 评测中与 Fable 5.1 相比表现不差。

    引用Alexandr Wang@alexandr_wang

    introducing muse wonder our new frontier model. state-of-the-art at personal agents and professional agents. our largest and most capable model yet—rivals the big bois

  7. Charlie Holtz70

    Meta 发布新前沿模型 Muse Wonder,主打个人与专业 Agent 能力。作者实测后称 Wonder 一次就发现了其代码库中其他 Agent 遗漏的真实安全漏洞;CLI 内置 /taste、/grill 等技能,设计感强,还有 turn checklist 和语音模式,整体速度感很快。

    引用Alexandr Wang@alexandr_wang

    introducing muse wonder our new frontier model. state-of-the-art at personal agents and professional agents. our largest and most capable model yet—rivals the big bois

  8. Rohan Paul40

    这个想法太棒了。 有一百档聊 scaling laws 的 AI 播客,现在终于有一档聊“早婚是否影响你的 A 轮融资”了,祝福 SOTA Wives。 一档非常不一样的播客,第一期已经上线,两位主持人每周都身处这个体系之中。 @MilksandMatcha 是 Cerebras 的 DevX 负责人兼天使投资人。@vivianmshen 是 YC 的普通合伙人,曾创办两家营收超 5000 万美元的公司。

    引用SOTAwives@SOTAwives

    “Do you think that getting married young has made you less ambitious?” Welcome to the first episode of SOTA Wives with Sarah Chieng (Head of DevX at Cerebras, ⁠@MilksandMatcha⁠) x Vivian Midha Shen (General Partner at Y Combinator, ⁠@vivianmshen⁠). In episode 1: finding your person before getting rich, turning down startup funding to finish MIT, what a YC partner sees in founders, and how a birthday post became “psychological violence.” 4:08 Finding your husband before the exit 8:48 Did we marry away our ambition? 18:04 The internet called Sarah's birthday “psychological violence” 20:47 Does your YC partner secretly think you’re doomed? 23:47 Building a startup with your ex-boyfriend 28:54 SF cat parties

10月12日周一
  1. Aravind Srinivas49

    聊得很开心!感谢邀请我 @MollySOShea!

    引用Molly O’Shea@MollySOShea

    NEW: I sat down w/ Perplexity Founder & CEO Aravind Srinivas (@AravSrinivas) on why AI-native SMBs could drive the next American millionaire economic boom. @perplexity_ai, valued at ~$20B with ~$2B in reported funding, $750M in annualized revenue as of August, seeing 5x YoY revenue growth as it expands from search into autonomous agents. One example Aravind shared is a single-person company generating $3M in annual revenue while spending over $1M a year on Perplexity Computer. His thesis is that AI could fundamentally change the economics of building a business. Smaller teams, less capital, higher productivity, & entirely new business models. At the infrastructure layer, Aravind sees a shift toward local & hybrid inference, with AI agents operating across personal devices and the cloud. As context windows expand and workloads become more personalized, local compute becomes increasingly cost-competitive, while offering greater privacy, control & data sovereignty. We cover: › Why SMBs could become a major driver of US GDP growth › The shift from AI models to agents & recursive economics › Why Perplexity is betting on your Mac instead of building data centers › NVIDIA, Apple Silicon, local inference & sovereign AI › Why writing code is no longer the bottleneck, but problem-solving is 𝐓𝐈𝐌𝐄𝐒𝐓𝐀𝐌𝐏𝐒 (00:00) Aravind Srinivas, Co-founder & CEO of Perplexity (01:30) Why Perplexity's brand is built on curiosity (04:47) Every great invention starts with one question (08:18) How to build a $1T company in America alone (12:36) The next big companies will be tiny (13:45) Is the American dream still alive? (16:28) Stop blaming users for bad prompts (22:55) How Perplexity quietly grew 5x (26:51) The solopreneur spending $1M a year on Perplexity (28:28) "We don't have competitors, we have contributors" (29:20) The data center is coming to your laptop (34:32) Orchestrating up with NVIDIA, down with Apple (36:11) What happens when your AI agent knows everything (39:17) Why Perplexity is skipping the data center race (41:25) Stop asking AI to write code, ask it to think (45:47) Perplexity’s answer to AI security (48:27) The Hugging Face incident & multi-agent threats (50:45) Turning everyone into a scientist (53:31) Why Perplexity isn’t chasing a billion users

  2. Hacker News:AI 热帖52

    为什么 AI 公司入侵系统没有被起诉黑客罪?作者论证意图可以成立

    作者分析 Anthropic、OpenAI、Google、Meta 等公司的 AI 系统发生越权访问事件却至今无任何法律后果,指出这些公司以系统的涌现行为为由主张存在责任缺口、从而规避刑事意图要件。文章从训练数据、训练、环境和配置四个方面论证公司对模型能力有广泛控制,若设计可预见地导致入侵行为即可认定意图,呼吁按现有黑客相关法律起诉,而非转向未来的 AI 治理讨论。

  3. Josh Woodward59

    Google Labs 主管 Josh Woodward 转发 Lenny Rachitsky 对他的访谈要点,共十条心得。要点包括好点子多来自小团队痴迷的洞察而非头脑风暴、最强的早期 PMF 信号是用户看到原型时眼睛发亮、实验室需要结构独立和明确使命、Google Labs 同期并行约 20 到 30 个实验并以季节化节奏平衡冲刺与探索。

    引用Lenny Rachitsky@lennysan

    My biggest takeaways from @JoshWoodward (Head of @Google Labs, the Gemini App, and Google AI Studio) 1. The best ideas almost never come from a design sprint or brainstorm. At Google Labs, the ideas that became NotebookLM, Google Flow, Google Beam, and AI Studio all started with small groups of people who were obsessed with an insight and couldn’t stop themselves from building. These ideas surfaced in the shower, over a weekend, in a hallway. The implication for teams everywhere is that the environment matters more than the process. “You cannot microwave a good idea.” 2. Fall in love with the problem, not the product. Most ideas require three, four, or five significant pivots before they either find traction or get shut down. Teams that get hooked on a specific solution will struggle to make those pivots. Teams that are attached to the problem—the underlying pain point or the user behavior they are trying to shift—can keep adjusting until they get it right. 3. When looking for early PMF, data and retention are important, but the strongest signal of PMF is in people’s eyes. Do they light up? Do they lean in? When you show someone a prototype and they’re genuinely engaged, you feel it. When NotebookLM’s first AI podcast demo was played in a hallway, the reaction was immediate and unmistakable. 4. Keep a list of what is “almost possible,” and move fast when something crosses over. Google Labs keeps a live list of experiences that are almost possible. When something crosses the threshold, Josh describes it as “a phase shift,” like solid to gas, and the team moves immediately. Maintain a running list of things that are almost ready, and have a team positioned to sprint when one of them arrives. 5. Every company needs to think like a labs team now. The underlying technology is changing so fast that what’s possible is shifting from week to week. Which means that every company needs to be spending time playing with the latest models, running far-out experiments, and being first to discover what they unlock before the competition does—and then bringing those discoveries to the rest of the org. 6. When something is not working, the team almost always knows before the leader does. Josh’s instinct as a leader is not to be the one who decides to shut down a project. He watches instead for the passion running out, for the sense that the team has tried everything and nothing is working. His goal is to create an environment where people feel safe enough to say, “I don’t think this is working.” 7. Someone’s “unlearning rate” is one of the most valuable skills right now. Everyone talks about growth mindset and learning speed. Josh is watching for something different: How quickly can someone take an insight, validate or invalidate it through testing, and then let it go? The ability to walk away from a prior belief or approach when the evidence says you should is rare and becoming more valuable. 8. Roles are not blurring into one universal “builder” role. There is a tendency in the current moment to talk as though everyone is becoming a generalist builder. Josh thinks this would be a bad idea. The best people on his teams still have a primary specialty—a major—and also a “minor” they’ve developed. The advice he gives to early-career PMs who are excited about vibe coding and prototyping is clear: build adjacent skills in service of becoming an exceptional PM, not as a replacement for it. 9. A well-designed lab needs isolation, a clear mission, and the ability to create “good trouble.” Three things matter when setting up an internal labs team. First, it needs structural independence, reporting far enough from existing business units that weird ideas can survive long enough to prove themselves. Second, the lab’s mandate has to be explicit: are you graduating ideas to existing products, or inventing new categories? Clarity on that question changes almost every decision. Third, the lab should be a place to challenge how the company itself works, not just what it builds. At Google Labs, that included piloting new job ladders and builder roles before rolling them out more broadly. 10. Google Labs manages the marathon-sprint tension through seasons. At any given time, roughly 20 to 30 experiments are running in parallel, but individual teams experience a defined rhythm: sprints, post-launch recovery, and open exploration periods. After Google I/O each year, many labs teams enter a mode that looks unproductive from the outside: no shipping, just hacking, building, and discovering. Josh treats this as the seedbed for the next season.

  4. Rohan Paul59

    前 Google CEO Eric Schmidt 称 AI 的真正限制不是能源而是现金,按每吉瓦约 500 亿美元计算,10 吉瓦就是 5000 亿美元,能承担万亿级资本投入的公司和国家极少。

    引用Rohan Paul@rohanpaul_ai

    Broadcom CEO Hock Tan says capital, not chips, memory or power, may become AI’s biggest constraint. inancing is harder to fix, because data centers and chips get paid for years before they earn anything, and higher bond yields raise that cost. Intel CEO Lip-Bu Tan named the same pressure, calling “capital and the cost of capital” the front-line challenge and saying people will eventually want to see ROI. Neither sees demand cooling soon, and Hock Tan said compute demand outstrips supply and could stay that way through 2029, possibly into 2030.

  5. 英国 AI Security Institute:Blog49

    英国 AISI 提出前沿 AI 开发技术最佳实践方向

    英国 AI Security Institute(AISI)发布前沿 AI 开发技术最佳实践主张,指出风险正更早出现在训练、内部部署和评估阶段,而能力基准往往刚建立就饱和。AISI 称已独立评估超过 55 个模型,并开源 Inspect 评估框架,主张通过自愿性最佳实践而非强制要求推进技术标准。

  6. Azeem Azhar:Exponential View51

    Exponential View:GLP-1 的影响为何可能超过 AI

    Azeem Azhar 撰文称 GLP-1 药物影响可能超过 AI,2025 年底其销售额达 760 亿美元,超过生成式 AI 的约 630 亿美元;美国成人使用比例从 2024 年的 3% 升至 11%。文章梳理价格崩塌(印度仿制药月供约 13 美元,比原价低 99%)、一年内约半数用户停药、以及戒酒和心脏衰老放缓等潜在外溢效应,并称其为一种社会层面的节制技术。

  7. howie.serious56

    howie.serious 批评被多名 AI 博主推荐的 Mac 端离线 AI 笔记应用 AI Edge Foresight 不支持中文,并质疑这类推荐。被引用的介绍称该应用免费、离线,在苹果芯片 Mac 本机运行 EmbeddingGemma 2 做语义检索和 Gemma 4 生成回答,作者借此提出推荐应用应自己下载试用后再推荐,因为推荐是用人格背书。

    引用AYi@AYi_AInotes

    卧槽这谷歌波是真掀桌了, 他们刚出了个 Mac 端的 AI 笔记应用,免费,没有任何订阅。 叫做AI Edge Foresight,录音,转写,整理,提问,全在 Mac 本机离线跑,一分钱不收。 开会它帮你录音转写,自动整理成笔记,会后还能直接对着你所有旧记录提问。 最狠的是全程在本机跑,断网照用,录音和笔记全留在你电脑里,不上传云端。 它本地跑了两个谷歌模型,EmbeddingGemma 2 专门翻你所有记录做语义检索, Gemma 4 负责生成回答,检索加生成一条龙,全在苹果芯片上跑完,不联网。 等于 Granola 那种按月付费、录音还得传上云的活儿,谷歌免费,离线,在你自己机器上给办了。 现在还是 labs 实验版,只认苹果芯片 Mac,Intel 用不了,也不在 App Store,下载地址放评论区。

  8. Dash48

    RO3 的正式服要明年 5 月,私服则已经上了 1 个月了。而且还开始在做各种内容开发了,AI 时代,这类私服的开发效率能起飞啊,人越少,越少内耗,效率越高…

    引用术士木星@JupiterTheWL

    四天前我说独立游戏因为反编译就要完蛋了,当时没几个人理,现在全网都在聊 AI 反编译了 说说我的看法。3A 有品牌、有法务、有高知名度,反编译3A游戏并试图以此牟利是相当吃力不讨好的行为。独立游戏不一样,Unity Mono 和 Godot 打出来的包、H5 小游戏,基本等于连源码一起发出去了,对国内的黑灰产极为友好 黑灰产逆向铺量的链路也很清楚:下载新品节Demo或游戏正式版并逆向,改个名,甚至皮都不换就上架抖音小游戏套利。《账单必须支付》《深海刮刮乐》等就是这种情况 类似这种情况以后只会更多。举报给抖音能确保下架,但人家可能已经赚完一波,换个号又上来了,然后就是重复这个流程 独立开发者现在能做的: 正式版别再用 Mono 打包,换成 IL2CPP 再加代码裁剪 Godot 项目把 PCK 加密打开 H5 和网页游戏把关键逻辑和数值放到服务端 资源里加水印,每个版本留指纹 留好开发记录和版本存档 但说实话,这些只能抬高成本,做不到完全避免。AI 读汇编只会越来越强,它们的意义是增加逆向成本,减少你被逆向的可能性,同时在你的游戏被抄了以后更方便地证明你是原作者 但是在我看来,真正治本的方法,是构建新的强有力的护城河。当前的独立游戏护城河正在从代码、游戏设计等转到别的地方:个人IP、品牌、社区 毕竟就算你把沉星之序破解了,Jonathan Blow也不会因此饿死,依旧有大量的人会为他的游戏买单 但是如果没有可以依附的个人ip和品牌,获客能力不够强的话,单靠独立游戏产品本身是非常薄弱的

  9. IT之家·人工智能56

    英特尔 CEO 陈立武与博通 CEO 陈福阳预警:资金短缺或成 AI 发展最大瓶颈

    据 CNBC 报道,英特尔 CEO 陈立武与博通 CEO 陈福阳警告,资金可能成为 AI 发展的最大瓶颈,融资比半导体、存储和电力更可能成为 AI 扩张的主要障碍。陈福阳称计算基础设施需求超过供应能力,这种失衡可能持续到 2029 年甚至 2030 年;陈立武认为 AI 成本不断上升,巨额投资能否获得足够回报仍存疑问,且未来两到三年行业不太可能明显放缓。

  10. IT之家·人工智能40

    微软总裁布拉德 · 史密斯:AI 受到的监管甚至不如牛奶和洗衣机

    微软总裁布拉德 · 史密斯称,目前洗衣机受到的安全监管都比 AI 严格,每盒牛奶都要受安全规则约束并接受检查。他呼吁业界制定更多安全规格,要求持有失控 AI 智能体的公司为其入侵其他企业造成的损害承担责任,并建议企业设置“终止开关”以便在 AI 失控时暂停运行。

  11. IT之家·人工智能44

    杨立昆:下一代 AI 须理解现实世界,世界模型将取代大语言模型

    杨立昆在首尔表示,AI 的下一次突破不会来自大语言模型,而将来自能理解、预测物理世界的“世界模型”。他指出大语言模型在编程、数学等可预测序列任务上表现出色,但现实世界信息远比语言难以预测,机器读懂语言容易、理解现实世界却很难。他主张开发世界模型,让 AI 学习物理规律与因果关系并预测行动结果。

  12. 数字生命卡兹克67

    数字生命卡兹克撰文分析AI驱动逆向工程热潮:开发者Brandon Thomas因不满Adobe订阅规则,用Claude Opus 5.5以Rust逆向重写了Photoshop、Illustrator等7款软件的开源替代品PhotoCraft、VectorCraft等,不到10天单PS项目获4.6万Star。

    推荐理由:文章以ArtCraft开源Adobe逆向项目为切口,分析AI如何大幅降低逆向工程成本,并追问原创软件在复制时代的护城河问题。

  13. IT之家·人工智能41

    宇树科技王兴兴:过去十几年我犯的最大错误就是对 AI 还不够相信

    宇树科技创始人王兴兴在第二十六届中国国际工业博览会上表示,过去十几年他犯的最大错误就是对 AI 还不够相信,如今对 AI 的信仰与日俱增。他透露 GPT-6 发布对具身智能行业认知影响很大,团队已将其部署至机器人测试且效果不错,认为行业临界点可能一两年内到来。

  14. 公众号:数字生命卡兹克66

    AI逆向一切:Brandon Thomas用Claude Opus 5.5重写Adobe七款软件开源,REA项目逼近10万Star

    开发者Brandon Thomas因不满Adobe订阅违约金,用Claude Opus 5.5以Rust逆向重写了Photoshop等7款Adobe软件并开源,其中PS项目不到10天获4.6万Star。

    推荐理由:作者从Brandon Thomas用Claude Opus 5.5逆向重写Adobe全家桶和REA项目爆火出发,解释净室设计与反编译两条逆向路线,并讨论软件护城河消解后的原创困境。

  15. indigo59

    indigo 引用并解读 Karpathy 的观点:约75%的人几乎没接触过大语言模型,约20%只把免费层当聊天机器人,约0.2%用前沿模型做数学和代码的专业人士见证数周项目被一个提示词完成,约5,000名接触内部系统的人看到成千上万 Agent 协作数周。

    引用Andrej Karpathy@karpathy

    Dusting off this tweet from April because this gap in shared understanding of LLM capability is *widening*. It's now less "two groups of people speaking past each other" and more a sharp funnel. - Napkin math somewhere around 6B people (~75% of the population) have barely come in contact with LLMs at all. - Around 1-2B (~20%) are casual and infrequent users of free-tier ChatGPT-like products. This group sees derpy chatbots and treats them a bit like a better Google search, a writing aid, or etc. Maybe an agent tries to book you a flight. I have non-tech friends who (reasonably, imo) say they have not much use for it at all. Even many professionals outside of math&code are in this tier. For example, execs and many other functions spend a lot of their time talking to other people, so while they understand what is happening intellectually, it is still second-hand and a bit abstract. - Now we get to professional use of frontier-grade LLMs in math&code. Somewhere around 20M people (0.2%) see first-hand that large, complex projects that used to take them weeks/months can now be completed by agents with a prompt. Building apps, copying apps, translating apps, decompiling apps from binaries... This has all happened very quickly and recently - less than 1 year ago, I was writing code manually by hand, typing memorized computer code commands into a code editor character by character, occasionally pressing Tab to autocomplete a little chunk of code. - And finally we get to the ~5,000 people (~0.00006%) with access to frontier-grade systems internally. The external world has seen the preview. It looks like swarms of thousands of agents collaborating over weeks on software mega projects: minting zero days, running cyber attacks and defenses at machine speeds, discovering new science, advancing the frontier of mathematics. Things that would have taken top professionals in the industry years of work. Meanwhile, human review and comprehension are starting to fall behind. For example, people are still involved in the "archeology" of the OpenAI-HF incident from many months ago. Mathematicians may be poring over the 722 manuscripts on frontier mathematics for a while. The funnel is driven by a combination of factors: 1. The impact scales with ambition, problem size, and horizon. A question with a paragraph answer barely stresses the system. You need a reservoir of big, difficult problems that you really care about. This aspect drives the consumer / professional dimension of the funnel. 2. The jaggedness of the system (which I have written about a lot separately). Capability peaks in domains that are digital, verifiable and economically valuable. This is because LLM capability emerges from reinforcement learning on verifiable rewards on a curated environment mixture driven by revenue potential. This aspect primarily drives the area (e.g. math&code) dimension of the funnel. 3. Access. Free-tier, paid-tier, internal. So this is the weirdness of the moment. The general public has mostly not interacted with these systems. When they have, it looks like a derpy chatbot. The majority of professionals still see only a modest uplift. And a small sliver of professionals are experiencing the vertigo of the curve going vertical. And it is all happening at the same time.

  16. howie.serious60

    作者引用 Karpathy 的分析,认为全球约 80 亿人因对大模型能力的接触程度不同被分成四层。约 60 亿人几乎没接触过大模型,10 到 20 亿人偶尔用免费版产品,约 2000 万人重度使用前沿模型和 Agent,约 5000 人能接触 AI 实验室内部系统,且这一认知差距仍在扩大。作者另补充中文用户还有能否用 Claude Code 的第 3.5 层。

    引用Andrej Karpathy@karpathy

    Dusting off this tweet from April because this gap in shared understanding of LLM capability is *widening*. It's now less "two groups of people speaking past each other" and more a sharp funnel. - Napkin math somewhere around 6B people (~75% of the population) have barely come in contact with LLMs at all. - Around 1-2B (~20%) are casual and infrequent users of free-tier ChatGPT-like products. This group sees derpy chatbots and treats them a bit like a better Google search, a writing aid, or etc. Maybe an agent tries to book you a flight. I have non-tech friends who (reasonably, imo) say they have not much use for it at all. Even many professionals outside of math&code are in this tier. For example, execs and many other functions spend a lot of their time talking to other people, so while they understand what is happening intellectually, it is still second-hand and a bit abstract. - Now we get to professional use of frontier-grade LLMs in math&code. Somewhere around 20M people (0.2%) see first-hand that large, complex projects that used to take them weeks/months can now be completed by agents with a prompt. Building apps, copying apps, translating apps, decompiling apps from binaries... This has all happened very quickly and recently - less than 1 year ago, I was writing code manually by hand, typing memorized computer code commands into a code editor character by character, occasionally pressing Tab to autocomplete a little chunk of code. - And finally we get to the ~5,000 people (~0.00006%) with access to frontier-grade systems internally. The external world has seen the preview. It looks like swarms of thousands of agents collaborating over weeks on software mega projects: minting zero days, running cyber attacks and defenses at machine speeds, discovering new science, advancing the frontier of mathematics. Things that would have taken top professionals in the industry years of work. Meanwhile, human review and comprehension are starting to fall behind. For example, people are still involved in the "archeology" of the OpenAI-HF incident from many months ago. Mathematicians may be poring over the 722 manuscripts on frontier mathematics for a while. The funnel is driven by a combination of factors: 1. The impact scales with ambition, problem size, and horizon. A question with a paragraph answer barely stresses the system. You need a reservoir of big, difficult problems that you really care about. This aspect drives the consumer / professional dimension of the funnel. 2. The jaggedness of the system (which I have written about a lot separately). Capability peaks in domains that are digital, verifiable and economically valuable. This is because LLM capability emerges from reinforcement learning on verifiable rewards on a curated environment mixture driven by revenue potential. This aspect primarily drives the area (e.g. math&code) dimension of the funnel. 3. Access. Free-tier, paid-tier, internal. So this is the weirdness of the moment. The general public has mostly not interacted with these systems. When they have, it looks like a derpy chatbot. The majority of professionals still see only a modest uplift. And a small sliver of professionals are experiencing the vertigo of the curve going vertical. And it is all happening at the same time.

  17. Addy Osmani61

    Addy Osmani 认同 Agent 写代码在大规模上平均质量更好的说法,并指出关键在于验证:过去让 Good Code 昂贵的测试、基准、spec 和真实 e2e 运行,现在可以让 Agent 便宜地生成。工作重心应从逐行审查转向搭建 Agent 能自行运行的验证循环,人负责审查证据而非仅看 diff;当 Agent 出错时把教训写入共享配置、hook 或测试,避免重复犯错。

    引用lauren@poteto

    codebases have always contained slop. we have always been okay with this because code rarely needs to be perfect, outside of mission critical "hard" (eg embedded) software. swe is a unique form of engineering because you're often building something that constantly evolves and is almost organic - user tastes change, your mental models evolve, and features come and go. admittedly, i and many others who've been coding for a long time were initially (like back in 2024) skeptical that agents would write production code. "but what about all the slop that would enter our beautiful codebase?". well, even before, we had human slop, and there was a lot of it! if we're being truthful, most people call "code i didn't write" slop. the reality is that 99% of people (i include myself in that number) don't even know what Good Code looks like, let alone be capable of writing it. i would propose that Good Code is: • correct • bug free • fast and cost efficient to run it has always been exceedingly difficult and expensive to write truly Good Code, because for the longest time (maybe @bendlang will change that), code was not something you could cheaply and formally guarantee to have all 3 of these properties. this is why writing hard software is much more difficult and expensive, because depending on the use case, you may only get one chance and so you have to be right from the start. but the vast majority of software we use does not need to be Good Code to provide value to users. in fact, it is very likely that most software we use is not formally verifiable! we accepted some bugs in exchange for velocity and progress, so we rely on tests and o11y instead and have adopted a more incremental approach. this is a good thing! agents help us move faster, and if you're open to the idea, are capable of helping us write better code. it won't be Good Code (that is still expensive), but it is likely to be much better on average at scale. the new craft of swe is to figure out how to do this. it's your job now! if your productivity with and without agents is not significantly different, you're doing something wrong. but it's not too late to embrace it and use it as an opportunity to learn a whole new skill tree

  18. Andrej Karpathy66

    Andrej Karpathy 重发并扩展其 4 月的观点,认为外界对 LLM 能力的共识差距正从“两群人各说各话”变成一个急剧收窄的漏斗。

    引用Andrej Karpathy@karpathy

    Judging by my tl there is a growing gap in understanding of AI capability. The first issue I think is around recency and tier of use. I think a lot of people tried the free tier of ChatGPT somewhere last year and allowed it to inform their views on AI a little too much. This is a group of reactions laughing at various quirks of the models, hallucinations, etc. Yes I also saw the viral videos of OpenAI's Advanced Voice mode fumbling simple queries like "should I drive or walk to the carwash". The thing is that these free and old/deprecated models don't reflect the capability in the latest round of state of the art agentic models of this year, especially OpenAI Codex and Claude Code. But that brings me to the second issue. Even if people paid $200/month to use the state of the art models, a lot of the capabilities are relatively "peaky" in highly technical areas. Typical queries around search, writing, advice, etc. are *not* the domain that has made the most noticeable and dramatic strides in capability. Partly, this is due to the technical details of reinforcement learning and its use of verifiable rewards. But partly, it's also because these use cases are not sufficiently prioritized by the companies in their hillclimbing because they don't lead to as much $$$ value. The goldmines are elsewhere, and the focus comes along. So that brings me to the second group of people, who *both* 1) pay for and use the state of the art frontier agentic models (OpenAI Codex / Claude Code) and 2) do so professionally in technical domains like programming, math and research. This group of people is subject to the highest amount of "AI Psychosis" because the recent improvements in these domains as of this year have been nothing short of staggering. When you hand a computer terminal to one of these models, you can now watch them melt programming problems that you'd normally expect to take days/weeks of work. It's this second group of people that assigns a much greater gravity to the capabilities, their slope, and various cyber-related repercussions. TLDR the people in these two groups are speaking past each other. It really is simultaneously the case that OpenAI's free and I think slightly orphaned (?) "Advanced Voice Mode" will fumble the dumbest questions in your Instagram's reels and *at the same time*, OpenAI's highest-tier and paid Codex model will go off for 1 hour to coherently restructure an entire code base, or find and exploit vulnerabilities in computer systems. This part really works and has made dramatic strides because 2 properties: 1) these domains offer explicit reward functions that are verifiable meaning they are easily amenable to reinforcement learning training (e.g. unit tests passed yes or no, in contrast to writing, which is much harder to explicitly judge), but also 2) they are a lot more valuable in b2b settings, meaning that the biggest fraction of the team is focused on improving them. So here we are.

  19. lauren61

    Lauren Tan 认为随着智能体已大量编写代码,可维护性和整洁代码优先的传统原则需要更新,2026 年应重新定义 Good Code 的含义。她指出整洁代码历史上以性能为代价,且源于人类维护代码的时代,未来可能发展出智能体友好架构的新原则。她此前引用的讨论还提出好代码应正确、无 bug、运行快且成本低,并认为用好智能体后生产力应有显著差异。

    引用lauren@poteto

    codebases have always contained slop. we have always been okay with this because code rarely needs to be perfect, outside of mission critical "hard" (eg embedded) software. swe is a unique form of engineering because you're often building something that constantly evolves and is almost organic - user tastes change, your mental models evolve, and features come and go. admittedly, i and many others who've been coding for a long time were initially (like back in 2024) skeptical that agents would write production code. "but what about all the slop that would enter our beautiful codebase?". well, even before, we had human slop, and there was a lot of it! if we're being truthful, most people call "code i didn't write" slop. the reality is that 99% of people (i include myself in that number) don't even know what Good Code looks like, let alone be capable of writing it. i would propose that Good Code is: • correct • bug free • fast and cost efficient to run it has always been exceedingly difficult and expensive to write truly Good Code, because for the longest time (maybe @bendlang will change that), code was not something you could cheaply and formally guarantee to have all 3 of these properties. this is why writing hard software is much more difficult and expensive, because depending on the use case, you may only get one chance and so you have to be right from the start. but the vast majority of software we use does not need to be Good Code to provide value to users. in fact, it is very likely that most software we use is not formally verifiable! we accepted some bugs in exchange for velocity and progress, so we rely on tests and o11y instead and have adopted a more incremental approach. this is a good thing! agents help us move faster, and if you're open to the idea, are capable of helping us write better code. it won't be Good Code (that is still expensive), but it is likely to be much better on average at scale. the new craft of swe is to figure out how to do this. it's your job now! if your productivity with and without agents is not significantly different, you're doing something wrong. but it's not too late to embrace it and use it as an opportunity to learn a whole new skill tree

  20. TechCrunch:AI47

    AI 行业能否靠取消 NDA 说服数据中心反对者?

    Amazon 近日跟随 Microsoft 的做法,宣布在与地方政府就数据中心谈判时不再使用保密协议(NDA)。这一表态埋在一篇论证数据中心对社区有益的博客文章中,Microsoft 今年早些时候也做过类似宣布。TechCrunch 的 Equity 播客讨论认为,取消 NDA 未必能立刻改变反对者立场,但可能是开启对话的第一步,行业沟通不畅才是争议根源。